Hello all,

i have decided to keep it all this year in the same topic, as some sort of development blog, so this is the place where you can find all related to my patches - all releases with links, usage of patches, your wishes, thoughts, and tips on how to alter the setting to your own preferences.

I will try to hit my ultimate version sooner this year, possibly withing three major releases, and to do that, i need your eyes and words

So please, don't ever hesitate to post your comments, feedbacks, and thoughs on any version of my patches released here.

Looking forward to hear from you!

Enjoy your games!

Keep in touch!

Ok, my first post goes to leaked demo vs. full game notices..

As i can see, there is no difference whatsoever between those two, and as i did put up high effort on the demo gameplay, now i have prepared base for actual patch, which i'm currently testing in full game.

I believe the first patch could be released for next weekend, but it all depends on the outcome of testings. As for now, i can confirm that overall experience should be very close to my last releases for previous game.

Will keep you informed, in the meantime, please feel free to post your wishes on how this game should look, to know which course to take in development.

Keep in touch!

Ola. With you on the workbench and other 3D 'modders' joining in soon, it won't take very long to unscramble the 3D

Good luck.

Hello all,

development is doing very well imho, here is some info what to expect..

List of updates due to original gameplay :

- players use their default skill values, instead of falling into tiers
- greater difference in speed between regular player, and those with great pace
- ground-passing style built-up play
- more long shot attempts
- more goals from long shots, keeper reactions are tweaked along
- more dribble attempts from skilled players
- direct approach to goal from strikers, they will be hungry for goals, and bit selfish as they should be
- passing picking remade, skilled players will do forward passes more, less skilled will play safer ones
- less bumping into defenders, player will either challenge them with dribble, run through, or turn around and pass back for one-two
- clearances will be turned on always when there is danger, no risky possesion play in front of your own goal
- less energy reduction
- less form impact on performance (better impact of tactics)
- less fatigue impact (better impact of tactics)
- no sudden drops or rises for teams during games, more consistency in players

I have just completed new ball movement, and now it's all down to testing overall "touch" of the game, and score lines, that's why i have to test it to longer period. I still feel this first patch will be ready for release for next weekend, and then i'll wait for official update ( which will have changes in 3D ) to make new version.

Keep in touch!

Hello ,

Go to be used this line now or not : PLAYER_ATTR_CPU_EFFECT_ON = 0 ?

Patcher's preference, friend..you know my thoughts on the subject, let's just leave the beast in the cave for a while

"no problemo" I'll wait patiently for the release of your patch !! From my part I prefer "0"! May be just a question of personal touch !!

It will be released for this weekend, i'll try to play it as much as possible to release it on Friday, but not promising anything, there are few issues to work on yet..

Current list "to change" is check for header passing, long passes, and goalie reactions, all the small finesses, so i think it will be ready..i don't want to build up too much hype about it, but it looks very good, it's a great base for next version before first official update comes out. Then we'll have to redo some changes becouse there ill be some new hard-coded changes afterwards, so new patch will be needed..my goal is to hit the ultimate one with version three - first one will be initial, second will be adaptation to update1, and third should be final

Haha we know how that went when u decided to stop patching in 08 =). Loved your patches though and 09 definetly needs a 3D patch and a further camera.

Am tempted to ask u to send me a beta but am afraid I'd like it too much and when update 1 comes out it'll be worse than ur patch. Ah Im still gonna download it when its out anyways!

Ok don't wanna rush u coz I appreciate all the modders on this forum...but hurry it up and lets try get it out before Friday (Now I sound like EA talking to BF).

Lol..thanks SMB!

I can send you beta, but with just few days of polishing the real thing it would only be a spoiler for you, you know? Decide for yourself, as i said, this first one is initial one, second version will be for update1, and third will be my last, no matter how long it will take me to do it

Keep in touch!

You are a hero

Whoever has that strong desire to play beta, PM me and you will receive link for download in a while, but i do advise you to hold on until friday and play the actual release. I want to fix some bugs before giving it to people, something BF should have done also

Can you send me beta path??

thank you

My email is: iperema@hotmail.com

PD: Can you make something about substitutions cpu????

I will send you download link now, thanks guys for helping in development..

Subs? I will look into it if i can, what is wrong with them?

I'm going to assume he's talking about how the CPU won't make any subs in 3D mode. I know it's a problem in friendly matches.

But it makes subs against me, and switches to different formation when they are loosing, so i don't have such problems..i never play friendly matches in 3D, only league games, friendly is best to simulate unless you are playing against your own reserves or youth team to see how they are doing

Hi SMB I will request you send me the most updated Beta on thursday as I am on leave from work on Friday and would be able to test it out then.

Really can't stand the ball being passed to no one and the way the players cant control the ball.

BTW I'm playing Regional South Conference so I'll be able to test it in the lower leagues and give you feedback. I do expect the players to be slow and make bad decisions but right now the game is just frustrating to watch..I played 08 with really weak teams and loved watching even when tho my players were of low leves.

Thanks SMB I'll PM you my e-mail on Thursday =)

Hope its not too much trouble

No problem at all, i hope that patch will be completed by then and released in friday, it's been a few games now without making any changes, that's a good sign..

Keep in touch!

last year I used your v7 patch.

For this year I played almost a season.

- The goalies are screaming for tuning (I Can see in news centre,when they ask me )
- too much back passing
- bad passing
- headers and crossing are almost fine,I think
- Touch ( When receiving the ball,the ball jumps of the foot and not with AI)
Long shots needs a little fine tuning

Wanna take a challenge on beta-testing for my first one?

No problem,I'll try it out

I'll PM you download link once i get home from work..about two hours from now..you just have to confirm how brilliant it is, that's all i'm asking No, honestly, i could do with some tips, as i'm focused on ball movement and i watched so many matches already that i can't noptice all areas as sharp as someone who see it first time

Keep in touch!

ok, I 'll try to give you some feedback......

Hi
Can you send me patch for fm 09?
i know you are testing but can I test as well?

me email : kosowo2001@yahoo.co.uk

I like you patch V8.2 for fm 08 and I aspect good one from you for fm 09

Sure, this will be very similar to V8.2..i'll send you the link when i'm home from work..

Best regards!

Groan..spent my whole evening playing with various patches from 08 and none of them do it for me. Im very afraid I dont like the engine this year and that no one can fix it.

I dont know wats wrong..my team just dont seem to create the chances..so many crosses and my players hardly win headers and when they do its soooo soft. I wonder if its coz Im playing in the regional leagues.

My team Cambridge C is top of the table though by 1 pt but its just torture watching the 3D..help meeee.

Please SMB PM me the link...I can't take it anymore..lol

It's because regional leagues. Headers in premier league are not soft

You will all get the download links on your personal messages now Keep it low profile guys, and let's make this game as it should be right from the start

EDIT : i have send it to you all, if anyone didn't get it, please let me know..

Enjoy your games!

p.s. I want your verdicts by tomorrow afternoon at least, to know how to tweak this thing further..thanks guys!

Hi m8

Would love to try out your patch, I'm currently playing the game myself with the joypad.

Game certainly needs refining.

I know last year you had a fix so you could play as the whole team not just 1 player, could you remember what this is please too or tell me how to do it?

Also are there any hidden moves in the game other than the standard controls?

Cheers

Played 5 games with your config


My thoughts:

*Players are running to far backwards,more than necessary

*Long shots from strikers while there are better options to score.

*Many turnings with ball (player has the ball and than turns around,mostly with ball moving too far from feet)

*While defending,defenders are moving in front of the attackers instead of behind the attackers (maybe tactical,turning off offside trap???)

*Free kick shots to far away from goal

* Still many backwards passing
* Can you do something about the player talks (not during half time), you need to talk too often with the players.

*build up play is ok

(should I begin a new game for the patch,could it be different of save game)??

Hello,

i'm sorry to dissapoint you here, but that wasn't me you are talking about

However, i do remember that i helped someone to build such patch with tips, i dunno how it turned out..the whole fusion thing was in enabling controller.

Line that you have to put is in the user.ini file in game's main folder :

ENABLE_CONTROLLER = 1

And then don't pick any player and you should be able to control them all..but this trick worked in 08 version, please let me know if it still apply for this one..

Btw, i'm very strongly against it, i find manager game best to sit back and watch the show, that's what is true meaning of managerial career, not to be able to take possesion of certain player..you have fifa soccer game for that

Only "other" keys i know is control, or alt, or shift for dribbles, i don't remember any more which one is it..

Best regards!

thanks m8 I will try this fix.

I agree with the player thing but for some games I like to jump in now and again and play, I normally lose though because I'm lol.

Occasionally I will bring the player off the bench but it is very hard.

I'd be very interested to try the patch you have to see how it works in a playing environment however.

Is there a link to it somewhere?

Hey smb

Send the beta...I willtst as well

Tried the rendering made a small difference but not enough.

I dont think the graphics work correctly on a AGP X4

Anyone got one?

I will start new post and ask

Just to let you know your fix worked a treat.
I can control the entire team now if I want too.

There are some major flaws with the cpu Im playing against though, they really dont do enough to score, here's hoping the patch will fix it.

Glad to hear it, maybe we'll make a fusion-only version once also, but now i'm concentrated on manager-only

I was out with my gf, now i'm sending you guys testing link, and do bear in mind it's not the final release..my target is still Friday for final, please hurry with your thoughts..

Best regards!

If i missed anyone for beta test, please do remind me again, i can get senile sometimes

Anyway, tomorrow afternoon i'm deleting link for beta and closiong down testing rounds, and will implement, or try to implement all your thoughts into final release..some can be done, and some can't..

Keep in touch!

Hello,

those are fast&fair thoughts, and they are head-to-head with my own notices..thanks for the feedback!

For passing notices - I have changed back-passes a bit, at least got rid of long ball back passes, which automatically provides us with more attacking play..i don't want to ruin balance in built-up by forcing forward play, so i don't think that will be in final release, but i can give you tips exactly what lines and values to change on your own to get to your own desired effect..i have made players go little more forward on their own, but i don't think it will be on your wanted level..what is most important is that it can be done easily afterwards just for you

For long shots, i will try to alter shooting bias to see the effect, i think you are right, players do sometimes shoot one-timers with no need

The turning feature is annoying to me also, it's either to let them do the turn or pass back to defence, no other option as i can see, so..from two evils i choose smaller one Maybe "they" will do something about it with official update1, as this is hard-coded change in animation

For defenders, do some tactical choices, unfortunately we don't have 5X5 any more to tweak movement, so you should use more defensive options like defensive stance, never forward runs, and don't use "all over" for closing down, let them defend half or third

Free kicks - you know the story, we still have to change shooting lines to make them better, but then all shooting in the game would be a mess..once again, from two evils, i choose one which does less mess
But i did saw couple of solid hard shots from them, you should look for player with long shot skill and shot power not more them 70, and free kicks skill no more then 75, then he would do more finesse shots

About player talk - i have reduced morale changes, but you will have to restart the game to take the effect..but that note will always be there to remind you to check your players..i will give boost in morale to any player which played last match, so all you need to do to keep your squad happy is to give everyone chance once in a while

Keep in touch!

Well just played first game using the beta patch and I must say it was great.

I noticed better passing and an all round improvement, great work.

Some things I have noticed however.

The defending back line, this is a problem it seems my defenders like to go "walkabout" and they are caught out too high up the pitch, maybe I need to change their defensive settings but all to often I am faced with 3-4 attackers and no defender to be found lol.

I'm noticeing a lot of bad tackles go unpunished and worse when faced with a 1 on 1 my player is brought down, the opposition defender will not even get a yellow card?!!! Yet if my player does a tackle in the midfield it's a straight red?

I know this isn't a patch issue as it was done with the standard game, but is there a way to fix this?

Also it looks like you have changed the camera angle in the patch, it was slightly at a rotation, I do like it better like this, how did you change it?

On a sad note I have to say my game is crashing now, this isn't anything to do with the patch but im on vista 64bit and its the 2nd time it has happened, it only seems to crash during the game.

Is there a way to play this windowed at all?

Great work keep it up tho m8

I know the tackling and referee setting, and i admit i haven't focused on it that much, but i will reduce straight red-card meter, and lower down referee agitation..i can't promise that it will be perfect for the first release, but i can say that those issues will be lot better in second and third patch when all build-up work is done..

As for defenders, you will have to work on the tactics, it has nothing to do with patch..unfortunately, bf decided to cancel 5X5 movement option in tactical menu where we could tweak movement, so you should look to make them positioned more deeply, and closing down to defending third or own half..also, be sure to make them not doing forward runs. You sould also mark fast opposite strikers with DM if you can spare one in your formation

I can't say much about your crashing issue, i don't have vista, i'm using XP and game didn't crashed on me yet. Try to play with 3D settings, lower down details or anti-aliasing meter, maybe with reduced settings game would run more smoothly and avoid crash.

To play windowed mode, check my last post on the Tips&Tricks topic

Camera angle can be changed in tcmai.ini file inside config.big archive, i'm using only angle changes and zoom levels, it will be slightly more zoomed in final release then in your testing version, but this camera is closest to tv camera i could get..

Keep in touch!

Great work m8

Thanks for the info and the windows tip.

How do I go about changing the camera angle, by that I mean not using the standard ones.
Is it possible to zoom out further at all so you can see more of the pitch?

Also I have noticed that when playing fusion mode, the scanner dissapears, this is difficult as you can't see your forward line, any ideas?

First of all, here is tip how to edit files inside config.big archive :

http://board.fm09.de/index.php?s=&show...dpost&p=720

When you are ready to do it, extract "tcmai.ini" file on your desktop, and open it with notepad..find this lines :

// Height of the camera (meters) - above the field
TCM_CAM_HEIGHT = 44.0

// This defines how less movement should the camera-position do compared to the camera-target (along the Z axis)
// Example: if this is 1.0 - the camera is moving simultaneously with the focus target along the Z axis (field length)
// Example: if this is 0.5 and the focus target is on the goal - the camera moves to 50% of the field
TCM_CAM_HORIZONTAL_FOLLOWING = 0.7

// This is the lens angle of the camera view (degrees)
TCM_CAM_LENSE_ANGLE = 16.4

Height line is obviously position of camera from the ground up, TCM_CAM_HORIZONTAL_FOLLOWING line is for angle, whether camera follows by line, or does more tv angle..when value is 1.0, camera goes as default one in original setting along the line, and with reducing to 0.7 as i did in the patch, it will make angle of 30% which you mentioned that you like
Lense of camera is best line to see more of the field, try to put it to 20 to see the effect - best explanation is simply the "zoom level"

Btw, never forget to backup your file before doing changes, if something goes wrong, game will crash..

Best regards!

SMB!!! Without sounding gay..I wanna say I LOVE you (actually your patch) and u have made this game playable for me. I was trying loads of patches for the 08 game on 09 but nothing was working the passing was awful. I even tried your 8.2 but no go.

My first game was an international match btwn..I cant even remember wat my national team is..Lichtenstein I think and Switzerland. My team was way weaker so I played 5-4-1 and very defensive with counter attacked turned on. The players were awesome passing the ball around and the Swiss team also had some good moves.

The Swiss took the lead with a superb header..something I havent seen in 09. Curled free kick from the right and smashed in just outside the 6yard box low into the corner..my defenders were at fault.

For the second half I played 532 and my team scored the best(est) goal Ive seen on FifaM09! I'll have to upload it when I have the time!Rushing out now but had to tell u how pleased I am.

Switzerland did score a long shot beautifully placed 1min later though and I lost but I didnt care coz my team played how I wanted them too just that the swiss were too strong.

I then played a match with my main team Cambridge United. The first pass my player gave the ball away and I though oh no the patch only works on highly rated teams. The computer then started stringing some lovely passes together and I was very excited. My team went down 1-0, 2-1 and made it 2-2 at HT after they had a man sent of.

I went full offensive in the second half and conceded =(. I did manage to pull it back to 3-3 but couldnt find the winning goal!

You are my hero SMB. The patch is not perfect but u've shown me that the game can be modified to become playable. Defence seemed too open for my lower league game but it was only one match. I would also like the players to challege a bit more for headers.

Some of the MANY good pts are offsides don't happen every second attack by either team(I hated that in the original patch) and the passing is so awesome now!

Can't wait to start playing properly now that the sack bug has been proven to be fake and 3D is fixed!!!

WOOOHOOO!!! Keep it up SMB!

Hey, Kons, i'm glad you are enjoying your defeats now

As you said it, there are lots of fine-tunes to do here, but we'll get to those eventually, my main goal for this first version is to establish great base, and major tweaks like built-up play and passing mechanics. I do admit that it's visible that i didn't do much on minor tweaks, but let's prepare the fire first with this version, and pun on some meat on the barbecue later on I'm actually not satisfied with this first patch, but it's better then i thought it would be.

Feel free to post all the negatives here as you will play on, until the final version is released..i still hope i'll be able to close it up in Friday

Keep in touch!

Btw, i expect less goals in final version, as i have made better reactions for goalies, they were letting in too much long shots, so that is already redone..

I see,but can you stick the ball more to the players feet while turning?

Hi Smb!

My name is David and i started playing this game two days ago and at first it seemed really cool but as time went on i realized that a bunch of flaws 1. the players often run with the ball so it goes out of the pitch 2. the players makes a bunch of errors in their passes, and im not talking about small teams im talking about times like tottenham and roma etc also 3. My team hardly scores anything..they create "some" chances and when they well do they hardly ever score......referring back to the previous guy is this something that your patch fixes, or will i just have to live with this lousy gameplay?

Thanks for your time!

//Dave

That's exactly what i'm trying to do with new ball movement, to make them look more technical, so far with only minor improvement, i'm trying to make the ball less bounced from leg, but at the same time ball would not bounce of the ground enough, so it has to be balanced more properly.

It's always give&take issue, you know?

Hello David,

keep an eye on custom gameplay patches from community, and i'm sure you will find the right one for you..we all try to make it look as realistic as possible, like you are watching actual game on tv, but we are limited by engine so it can't be 100% as we would like it to be..but we try

I'm hoping to release gameplay patch for this weekend, friday possibly, and i hope my fellow patchers will activate soon also with their work.

Stay tuned!

Hey SMB, I know it is a little late but may I try out your patch too? The original one for the game is so horrid.

Hi smb

Played a few games.

U have managed to create the most realistic mirror of a prem football match.

Boring...pass sideways..pass backwards...pass sideways...pass backwards. No shots unless wide by a mile.
No exitement...no skill...just keep the ball...keep the ball....keep the ball...snr snr..snr.

This is football as we watch it. Not sure how you achieved this, but I`m after the opposite.

Direct football...pass quick and strike...defenders get in the way or striker gets a chance...keeper saves or goal!!!

Don`t take this personnel (I`m sure you won`t, you know I owe you you for keeping me after 08 was released) but this hard coded pass backwards and sideways and short, one man back to same man...back to same man ...back to same man...bores the pants out of me.
Why oh why can`t BF learn from our comments.

A lot of work to do my friend. Your the man though.

One thing...loaded direct 9 back on my machine and fixed my graphic problem. Just need a game to play now.

I have loaded our patch from 07 and this isn`t far away exept for the ridiculous back passing when near goal.

We need to get BF to re-set this passing hard code or its another year wasted.

Hello,

i will send you download link to PM now to try, and actual patch should be released for this weekend.

Best regards!

p.s. if you didn't received the link, let me know on PM.